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"Mr. Ventura. | Mr. President, we have a doubt here as to the scope of the meaning of the first four lines, paragraph 6, page 11 of the draft, reading: The elections, returns and qualifications of the Members of the National Assembly and all cases contesting the election of any of its Members shall be judged by an Electoral Commission, * * * I should like to ask from the gentleman from Capiz whether the election and qualification of the member whose election is not contested shall also be judged by the Electoral Commission. |
"Mr. Roxas. | If there is no question about the election of the members, there is nothing to be judged; that is why the word 'judge' is used to indicate a controversy. If there is no question about the election of a member, there is nothing to be submitted to the Electoral Commission and there is nothing to be determined. |
"Mr. Ventura. | But does that carry the idea also that the Electoral Commission shall confirm also the election of those whose election is not contested? |
"Mr. Roxas. | There is no need of confirmation. As the gentleman knows, the action of the House of Representatives confirming the election of its members is just a matter of the rules of the assembly. It is not constitutional. It is not necessary. After a man files his credentials that he has been elected, that is sufficient, unless his election is contested. |
"Mr. Ventura. | But I do not believe that that is sufficient, as we have observed that for purposes of the auditor, in the matter of election of a member to a legislative body, because he will not authorize his pay. |
"Mr. Roxas. | Well, what Is the case with regards to the municipal president who is elected? What happens with regards to the councilors of a municipality? Does anybody confirm their election? The municipal council does this: it makes a canvass and proclaimsin this case the municipal council proclaims who has been elected, and it ends there, unless there is a contest. It is the same case; there is no need on the part of the Electoral Commission unless there is a contest. The first clause refers to the case referred to by the gentleman from Cavite where one person tries to be elected in place of another who was declared elected. For example, in a case when the residence of the man who has been elected is in question, or in case the citi- zenship of the man who has been elected is in question. "However, if the assembly desires to annul the power of the commission, it may do so by certain maneuvers upon its first meeting when the returns are submitted to the assembly. The purpose is to give to the Electoral Commission all the powers exercised by the assembly referring to the elections, returns and qualifications of the members. When there is no contest, there is nothing to be judged. |
"Mr. Ventura. | Then it should be eliminated. |
"Mr. Roxas. | But that is a different matter, I think Mr. Delegate. |
"Mr. CINCO. | Mr. President, I have a similar question as that propounded by the gentleman from Ilocos Norte when I arose a while ago. However I want to ask more questions from the delegate from Capiz. This paragraph 6 on page 11 of the draft cites cases contesting the election as separate from the first part of the section which refers to elections, returns and qualifications. |
"Mr. Roxas. | That is merely for the sake of clarity. In fact the cases of contested elections are already included in the phrase 'the elections, returns and qualifications.' This phrase 'and contested elections' was inserted merely for the sake of clarity. |
"Mr. Cinco. | Under this paragraph, may not the Electoral Commission, at its own instancy refuse to confirm the election of the members? |
"Mr. Roxas. | I do not think so, unless there is a protest. |
"Mr. Labrador. | Mr. President, will the gentleman yield? |
"The President. | The gentleman may yield, if he so desires. |
"Mr. Roxas. | Willingly. |
"Mr. Labrador. | Does not the gentleman from Capiz believe that unless this power is granted1 to the assembly, the assembly on its own motion does not have the right to contest the election and qualification of its members ? |
"Mr. Roxas. | I have no doubt but that the gentleman is right. If this draft is retained as it is, even if two-thirds of the assembly believe that a member has not the qualifications provided by law, they cannot remove him for that reason. |
Mr. Labrador. | So that the right to remove shall only be retained by the Electoral Commission. |
"Mr. Roxas. | By the assembly for misconduct. |
"Mr. Labrador. | I mean with respect to the qualifications of the members. |
"Mr. Roxas. | Yes, by the Electoral Commission. |
"Mr. Labrador. | So that under this draft, no member of the assembly has the right to question the eligibility of its members? |
"Mr. Roxas. | Before a member can question the eligibility, he must go to the Electoral Commission and make the question before the Electoral Commission. |
"Mr. Labrador. | So that the Electoral Commission shall decide whether the election is contested or not contested. |
"Mr. Roxas. | Yes, sir: that is the purpose. |
"Mr. Pelayo. | Mr. President, I would like to be informed if the Electoral Commission has power and authority to pass upon the qualifications of the members of the National Assembly even though that question has not been raised. |
"Mr. Roxas. | I have just said that they have no power, because they can only judge." |
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